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Группа "Кнааним"
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Meshulash
СообщениеДобавлено: 14 Мар 2002 13:51    Заголовок сообщения: Группа "Кнааним"

Кто-то знает что-либо о группе «Кнааним»?

Знаю, по предисловию З.Коппельман к книге Б.Таммуза, что она зародилась где-то в 20-30-е годы и что в начале 50-х еще существовала. Лидер группы – Йонатан Ратош.
Кнааним были суть почвенниками, полагали, что Палестина принадлежит всему народу иври.
Были готовы объединятья с местными арабами, но не с олим. Не поддерживали сионизм.
Наиболее видные деятели, кроме Ратоша: Б.Таммуз, Э.Зохар, А.Амир, М.Пелед, У.Орнан, Э.Бен-Цури, У.Авнери, И.Данцигер.
Почти все из группы были членами Пальмаха.

Кто-нибудь знает более подробную их историю и взгляды?
 
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Dan
СообщениеДобавлено: 14 Мар 2002 18:04    Заголовок сообщения:

From:
Yonatan Ratosh, 'The New Hebrew Nation', in Unease in Zion, ed. E. Ben Ezer, (New York, 1974)

BEN EZER: What, then, are the tenets of the Canaanite outlook that you propose as an alternative?

RATOSH: I shall attempt to summarize in outline form, as concisely as possible, our Hebrew (or Canaanite, as it is commonly called) approach:

As has occurred in many immigration-based countries in recent centuries (for example, Australia, Mexico and the U.S.), there emerged in this country at the turn of the last century a new nationality named that of the new Hebrew nation...

Our victory, and in the long run our very existence, is possible only if we take our place at the head of all those who strive for independence and progress in the entire Euphrates country, being the pioneer and nucleus of its resurgence on a secular, national, non-denominational and non-racial basis, with reliance on the classic ancient Hebrew background shared by all the inhabitants and ethnic groups of this country prior to the emergence of Judaism and the rest of the religions that factionalize the population today...

BEN EZER: What are the practical points of your program, within the context of the State of Israel?

RATOSH: Gradual absorption of all the inhabitants of the country into an open, uni-national Hebrew society, which predicates equality of obligations and rights for all, without difference of extraction, faith or denomination.

Uniform secular Hebrew schooling (with optional religious lessons) for all inhabitants of the country, without difference of extraction, faith or denomination.

Gradual conscription into the Israel Defence Forces of all inhabitants of the country, without difference of extraction, faith or denomination.

Immigration as required by the country, according to personal qualifications alone, without difference of extraction, faith or denomination.


BEN EZER: How will we be able to absorb the Arabs into the framework of the new Hebrew nation?

RATOSH: If we have integrated Yemenite Jews with Kurdish Jews, together with Jews from Germany, for example, (groups of people who had nothing in common), why shouldn't we be able to integrate Arab fellahin? The only question is that of the basis on which to integrate. Today, we are integrating on a denominational basis. On this basis, we are even integrating people for whom denominational mentality as a basis for the life of the state is in itself alien, as for example those from Western Europe. If we establish integration on a national, secular - Hebrew and not Jewish - basis, there is no reason why we should not be able to absorb non-Jews as well into the broad national framework, without difference of extraction, faith, or denomination. Perhaps I should stress here that in fact the main question is not that of the adults, who might seem to be the candidates for absorption into the Hebrew national society, but of their children, who are going to grow up as Hebrews...

RATOSH: Judaism is not a nationality. The sociological definition most suitable for it is the 'millet' of the defunct Ottoman Empire. In that empire there existed a society of a clearcut medieval pattern, composed of a mosaic of religious communities, each a closed, endogamous unit, with its own judiciary system, collective responsibility and religious and secular leadership. Judaism as a religious-community unit, as a 'millet', was not exceptional in the Ottoman Empire, just as it was not exceptional in the framework of medieval society, a society based on the religious community. Judaism is not exceptional or a 'problem' anywhere except in the new national society that is based on national principles.

The generation that is growing up among us, the large majority of whom are secular, do not feel identified with the history of the Jewish people in the Diaspora. The tie between them and the Diaspora Jews is most slack and is getting slacker. They are aware of a different identity for themselves. That is a fact. This fact is bewailed by numerous Jews and Zionists, who have been alarmed about it for decades, even before the Israeli-born placed the concept of 'Zionism' in quotation marks and thereby provided a popular expression for their sense of its foreignness. In recent years the Jewish authorities have introduced 'Jewish consciousness' studies into the schools, in the spirit of Jewish and Zionist theory - but to no avail. The estrangement of the Israel-born from 'Judaism' is in point of fact a clear testimony to how alien the imposers of 'Jewish consciousness' are to the Israel-born...

См тaкже:
James S. Diamond, Homeland or Holy Land?: The "Canaanite" Critique of Israel , Bloomington,1986.

И еще 3 небoльшие ссылки:
http://www.saveisrael.com/ratoshbio.htm
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/9771/nln11.html
http://www.bgu.ac.il/moreshet/tikshuv/crucial/canaan.htm
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Meshulash
СообщениеДобавлено: 14 Мар 2002 18:19    Заголовок сообщения:

Дан, спасибо!!!!
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Авигдор
СообщениеДобавлено: 15 Мар 2002 11:07    Заголовок сообщения:

Особенно меня злит ,что выведенная в Израиле оригинальную породу собак назвали Ханаанской собакой.. Женщина-выводительница попала под влияние этой туссовки...
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Misha Botvinik
СообщениеДобавлено: 15 Мар 2002 15:12    Заголовок сообщения:

http://www1.snunit.k12.il/heb_journals/svivot/33061.html
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Meshulash
СообщениеДобавлено: 18 Мар 2002 11:38    Заголовок сообщения:

Миша, спасибо!
Страшное интервью. Грустно.
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Zenja
СообщениеДобавлено: 19 Мар 2002 16:27    Заголовок сообщения:

Мишa, прoчитaл стaтью нa твoём линке, спaсибo. В стрaшнoе время мы жили, слaвa Б-гу прoшлo!!!
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Hebrus
СообщениеДобавлено: 27 Мар 2002 11:55    Заголовок сообщения:

"Дедушкa" Узи Oрнaн, кoнечнo, свoи 90 с хвoстикoм пo "сaфoт тивъийoт" мне пoстaвил... icon_pain03.gif нo прaвее oт этoгo не стaл. Oчень тoлкoвый дядькa в свoей oблaсти, нo у меня тaкoе впечaтление, чтo oн пoследoвaтель Хoмскoгo - к сoжaлению, не тoлькo в лингвистике... cry.gif
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